PlayOnline’s so called “Customer Support”

06.21.2009

The reason I’m writing to you today, is to warn FFXI players, or players of future PlayOnline services what they are getting into if they run into a problem. FFXI players will know what I mean, because more than likely you’ve made a GM call and gotten the dreaded “We’ll look into it” Aka, have a nice day while we go sip coffee, eat donuts, and laugh at the more unfortunate.

Here’s the story, recently my boyfriend had to use their Character Recovery service, that rolls your character back if there is a problem in game. He logged on to find 8 million gil missing off his account. Now… that’s a considerable amount in FFXI terms, you can buy nearly anything off the Auction House with it.

PlayOnline stated they can only do their rollback once, and if you personally do not know when the error occurred and it is rolled back but not fixed because it happened earlier than that, you are screwed. Not only that but they brilliantly dupe the lost items/gil instead of removing it from the character that stole it and restoring it to the original owner.

Attempt #1: He contacted PlayOnline and they requested a Photo ID and sent a forum to sign. Sent all of it in an e-mail, they lost it. They did not contact him to tell him that they did not receive it.

Attempt #2: Resent information, called back a few days later, they lost the e-mail it had been sent from. Again, no contact.

Attempt #3: After about a week they started the investigation, and told us it would take a week and that the chances of it being recovered were highly likely.

Attempt #4: Over a week had passed, he called to see what they were doing, they had no information and said wait for the automated e-mail. Finally someone told us it was being worked on by the Japanese division.

Attempt #5: Gave them considerable time, called back again. Apparently the report had been sent back to the NA division but they couldn’t translate it properly so they just let it sit there for a week and a half. After some prodding, the guy on the phone said he would personally give it special attention so it got pushed through.

Attempt #6: Finally a month and a half later he got his conformation e-mail that said they had finished the recovery… and failed it. He called to find out why. After talking to 4 or more different people all with different levels of helpfulness and rudeness some answers came out. The person who took it was in the same ISP, one guy accused him of stealing his own gil while the other said “Well check and see if your girlfriend has nicer gear than before.” which led to much rage. Now… an ISP is not an IP, so that means the same provider (comcast, roadrunner, verizon). They said they knew who took the gil and where it was now. Even that it was someone we knew. They requested IDs of accounts that we had logged onto before, and once we figured out who it probably was… they would not take the ID even though they asked us to call back if we had more IDs to add.

Finally… they announced the case closed while we were in the middle of trying to give them the ID. We hung up and did not call again. The next day he received an official C&D to not call again. There was no punishment for the person who stole the gil.

Before this happened a friend of mine in my Linkshell (guild/clan) had been having the same service done for his character, and it took them 4 months to do. Not only that but you have to pay for play time while you are locked out of your own account. If you try to cancel the payment, PlayOnline told us that it will interrupt the process and it’s possible to lose your character completely. This was not told to us before we started the process.

So PlayOnline, I dub thee, worst business practice I’ve ever heard of in my lifetime.


Allowei

I live out in Seattle, Washington and work in the gaming industry. Gaming and I have a casual relationship right now, as I was big on MMOs for many years. I won't hesitate to get competitive though! I'm also a fan of anime and most things nerdy. I'd rather watch the History and Discovery channel more than anything else when I'm in front of the TV! Back in the day I jumped from Super Nintendo, to Dreamcast, to the original XBOX. By most gamer's standards I was deprived. High school was the first time I really got serious about games when a friend of mine got me in to Ragnarok Online. From there I jumped to L2 and FFXI. Now I play many genres and styles of games, and am nerdier than ever!



  • Omelerouge

    Frankly, this is an absolutely fucking terrible job they’ve managed to pull here, maybe more-so than normal. Shitty service is not a shock, the cease-and-desist order was such a cool guy move too, I guess they really are just going to roll with the Tokens being the sole preventative of this shitbaggery, being so that no one will want to deal with their atrocious customer (dis)service department (aw yeah, drives sales). Sorry to hear your shit got jacked Neko, guess neither of you will be back now, due to Aion? Sort of obvious I guess, but yeah, take care.

  • Allowei

    Nice to see you Omel :D

    We’ll probably be around on and off in FFXI, gonna get busy next month. Might skip Aion because it seems redundant to play it when it comes out around the beta for FF14, then a year later it’ll be out.

    Oddly enough they only took the gil, not the account or items, so it’s just a few months of selling Khromas to make it back. Hope you’re doing well and that we see you around =)

  • Ted

    This is Square-Enix. Their customer support is, as far as I can tell, built around the concept of delay and annoy long enough that people give up.

    The stories of repeated billing errors, useless email/phone/webchats, 2hr hold times, a dev team that refuses to answer questions, a dev team that secretly (and not so secretly) changes mobs so players can’t defeat it and GMs that know less about the game than your grandmother are common.

    And people are willingly looking forward to more of this with FFXIV. I’ll never buy another Square-Enix product (online or off) based on how they’ve treated me. I’d suggest others think about where they want their entertainment dollars to go. With all the new MMOs on the way, is it really worth the frustration you know you’ll get from Square-Enix? I, and many others, don’t think so.

  • http://www.breaklimitgames.com Megumiaraki

    LMAO! Its not funny but really…I never expect playonline to help me with anything if I get screwed over. I figured I am just screwed over >.<;;;…I was just assuming though xD…I guess I assumed right.

    Sorry though that SUCKS MAJOR ASS! I wish….I REPEAT…. WISH… I could have 8 million gil in this game I think the highest I EVER got to was 100,000 or so….

    Whoever stole the gil is an Fking Douche. I hope they get what they deserve one way or another later on. Gil is extremely hard to come by in this game so whoever it is, certainly is a lame ass.

  • Omelerouge

    Well, atleast you guys will be around. If you need Nyzul crap, or Salvage..you know who to ask.w

    To be fair, Square-Enix SEEMS to be making an effort to bring in experienced FFXI players for GMing and other staff positions within XIV (atleast as I recall from a thread in BG Standard). Now what that means is we might have pretty pro folks who aren’t utterly fucking clueless hurring retards who can’t act according to the very definition of holding they laid out (see: infamous Cerberus “holding” incident from 2007 or so, with an Earth Staff, which was doing damage, not much, but yeah, cool move GM guy).

    On the other hand, if these potential FFXI players are the awful, ZAMmers from Alla, or the clueless morons who worship Charitwo (FFXIclopedia), we’re probably just as fucked (endgame players r elitustz!!111). And equally, the limitations imposed upon the GMs and so on could just as easily cripple their image and actual usefulness, which would be more so a crime if these GMs were high-caliber players, and have a passionate hate for RMT or doing the utmost possible to really earn the respect of the playerbase.

    TL;DR of the entire thing: Square-Enix is probably it’s own worst enemy in this, their policies need to pretty much do a complete 180 in several areas…and they need to establish an open, and frank (no pulling punches, when you’re fucking stupid, you’re fucking stupid Square, sorry) medium through which we can lambaste them for their fucking idiocy, or their comparative successes.

    It’s fucking hilarious that a good portion of the veteran endgame community would probably help SE fix and outline goals for content, for FREE, yet it seems like the developers have their heads in the sand, farting out “IDK BFFWUT”s or other equally fail things, in the face of people who know what they’re doing.